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spokeOriginal source - Samurai Warlords: The Book of the Daimyo, author Stephen Turnbull
(as summarized by a sugar-filled lunatic with too much time on her hands)
(that would be me)
Once upon a time, (which would be Sengoku-era Japan) there was a family by the name of Sanada who served the Takeda. When the Takeda went down (long long story, some versions of which include a woman involved having been a fox demon) the Sanada were amoung those retainers forced to submit to the Tokugawa. (That would be a bad idea)
The head of the family never liked the Tokugawa much, partly due to his eldest son being hostaged according to the traditions of the time, even though the boy ended up marrying the daughter of one Honda Tadakatsu, great captain of the Tokugawa forces. Then Ieyasu decides to take the Sanada's land in order to give to the Hojo, which exchange I am imaging went something like this:
Tokugawa Ieyasu: *writes letter to the Sanada informing them of thier landlessness*
Sanada Masayuki, upon reading letter: ! I knew you were a bastard!! Well, that does it. *writes letter starting with 'Screw you! You know that horse you rode in on? That too! In fact, why don't you go and...' *
(Okay so that last is very unlikely? I still like the image!)
(eats another Peep)
So Masayuki rebels, and might have been squashed but for the interferance of Hideyoshi. ...>> Which would have gone like this:
Masayuki: *holed up in Ueda family castle* >:ppp
*guys with arrows taking shots at each other, and general seigeness*
Tokugawa's people: Hey! You can't stay in there forever!!
Masayuki: Yeah? Watch me! >:p You couldn't take me alive if I surrendered!
Hideyoshi: All right, knock it off! *catches arrow to the astonishment of all* You *points to Sanada* come out of there, and you! *points to Tokugawa* back off, and *negotiatingness*
And all is happy again! :D ..until 1600 and war breaks out again. Nobuyuki has to stay with the Tokugawa still, because of the marriage, and there is emotional parting between him and Masayuki and Yukimura (another prominent member of the family) , who march off back to Ueda and try to hold it against the Tokugawa again.
And they did, too. >:) For it is The Seige That Would Have Decided Sekigahara, If There Had Not Been Treachery On The Battlefield! Go Sanada! >:D
( Yes I'm nuts?)
>:/ Stupid treachery on the battlefield. Masayuki and Yukimura are captured after the fact, and would have been killed - except there was still Nobuyuki! Yay Nobuyuki, whose intervention got thier sentances changed to exile! :) And more importantly, you know, he was there to carry on the family line. *coughRyocough*
So Date Masamune's great grandson (I think? 3rd generation, it says?) was such an utter lech that he actually got condemned by the bakufu for spending all his time in the red-light district and, you know. Not being a daimyo! >:P Eventually his own retainers got fed up with him and went and forced him to retire, putting his 2 year old heir in charge.
And this is where it gets really interesting. The guardians in question were Date Hyobu Munekatsu and Tamura Ukyo, actually the kid's older brother but illegimate. (Big surprise there. Oh yes.) Hyobu was the tenth son of Date Masamune (yes that Masamune) and almost a complete and utter ass-hat.
He pretty much runs rampant over Tamura and the rest of the family, promotes all his own guys to power including one Harada Kai, and generally mismanages everything. In 10 years, with 120 retainers, he made 17 of them commit suicide.
Eventually the next most powerful in the family begins trying to step in. Things gets more and more violent, and Aki went and lodged a complaint with the bakufu (whom I can't help but think were getting a little ticked off at the name Date by this point) and in 1671 an investigation of Aki's claims was held at the house of one Sakai Ude-no-kami, the family's chief retainer. 4 guys being questioned, one of whom was Harada Kai and another being Aki Muneshige. When the first 3 accounts agree with each other's and Harada's is wildly different, the man snaps under questioning.
And I mean snaps. Draws his short sword and attacks Aki Muneshige, wounds him and trys to run for it. The other two give chase and wound him, abd along with a few other retainers (present but not being questioned?) one of whom also gets wounded to the point of death.
Unfortunately for Hyobu, this destroyed his defence. So he is removed from control of the family, put into its custody (presumably the young heir being old enough to take over by now?) and reduced to insignificant rank. <<;;;
And as my humor is running low, I shall let it end there, and do other mocking and/or sharing of tidbits another day.
(as summarized by a sugar-filled lunatic with too much time on her hands)
(that would be me)
Once upon a time, (which would be Sengoku-era Japan) there was a family by the name of Sanada who served the Takeda. When the Takeda went down (long long story, some versions of which include a woman involved having been a fox demon) the Sanada were amoung those retainers forced to submit to the Tokugawa. (That would be a bad idea)
The head of the family never liked the Tokugawa much, partly due to his eldest son being hostaged according to the traditions of the time, even though the boy ended up marrying the daughter of one Honda Tadakatsu, great captain of the Tokugawa forces. Then Ieyasu decides to take the Sanada's land in order to give to the Hojo, which exchange I am imaging went something like this:
Tokugawa Ieyasu: *writes letter to the Sanada informing them of thier landlessness*
Sanada Masayuki, upon reading letter: ! I knew you were a bastard!! Well, that does it. *writes letter starting with 'Screw you! You know that horse you rode in on? That too! In fact, why don't you go and...' *
(Okay so that last is very unlikely? I still like the image!)
(eats another Peep)
So Masayuki rebels, and might have been squashed but for the interferance of Hideyoshi. ...>> Which would have gone like this:
Masayuki: *holed up in Ueda family castle* >:ppp
*guys with arrows taking shots at each other, and general seigeness*
Tokugawa's people: Hey! You can't stay in there forever!!
Masayuki: Yeah? Watch me! >:p You couldn't take me alive if I surrendered!
Hideyoshi: All right, knock it off! *catches arrow to the astonishment of all* You *points to Sanada* come out of there, and you! *points to Tokugawa* back off, and *negotiatingness*
And all is happy again! :D ..until 1600 and war breaks out again. Nobuyuki has to stay with the Tokugawa still, because of the marriage, and there is emotional parting between him and Masayuki and Yukimura (another prominent member of the family) , who march off back to Ueda and try to hold it against the Tokugawa again.
And they did, too. >:) For it is The Seige That Would Have Decided Sekigahara, If There Had Not Been Treachery On The Battlefield! Go Sanada! >:D
( Yes I'm nuts?)
>:/ Stupid treachery on the battlefield. Masayuki and Yukimura are captured after the fact, and would have been killed - except there was still Nobuyuki! Yay Nobuyuki, whose intervention got thier sentances changed to exile! :) And more importantly, you know, he was there to carry on the family line. *coughRyocough*
So Date Masamune's great grandson (I think? 3rd generation, it says?) was such an utter lech that he actually got condemned by the bakufu for spending all his time in the red-light district and, you know. Not being a daimyo! >:P Eventually his own retainers got fed up with him and went and forced him to retire, putting his 2 year old heir in charge.
And this is where it gets really interesting. The guardians in question were Date Hyobu Munekatsu and Tamura Ukyo, actually the kid's older brother but illegimate. (Big surprise there. Oh yes.) Hyobu was the tenth son of Date Masamune (yes that Masamune) and almost a complete and utter ass-hat.
He pretty much runs rampant over Tamura and the rest of the family, promotes all his own guys to power including one Harada Kai, and generally mismanages everything. In 10 years, with 120 retainers, he made 17 of them commit suicide.
Eventually the next most powerful in the family begins trying to step in. Things gets more and more violent, and Aki went and lodged a complaint with the bakufu (whom I can't help but think were getting a little ticked off at the name Date by this point) and in 1671 an investigation of Aki's claims was held at the house of one Sakai Ude-no-kami, the family's chief retainer. 4 guys being questioned, one of whom was Harada Kai and another being Aki Muneshige. When the first 3 accounts agree with each other's and Harada's is wildly different, the man snaps under questioning.
And I mean snaps. Draws his short sword and attacks Aki Muneshige, wounds him and trys to run for it. The other two give chase and wound him, abd along with a few other retainers (present but not being questioned?) one of whom also gets wounded to the point of death.
Unfortunately for Hyobu, this destroyed his defence. So he is removed from control of the family, put into its custody (presumably the young heir being old enough to take over by now?) and reduced to insignificant rank. <<;;;
And as my humor is running low, I shall let it end there, and do other mocking and/or sharing of tidbits another day.
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