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Jun. 23rd, 2011 03:25 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
spokeHere there be squee.
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Because seriously? Seriously?! XD Tiny Charles and Raven! And oh god Raven. It is so sad when you know things are going to end badly. Really I quite want to slap the shit out of Charles for the way he treats Raven, even though I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean to be an asshole. It's just that she is quite right, he wants to conform and fit in and ideally, I think, have it be like they don't exist - like the mutations are no bigger a difference than eye and hair color. He flinches away from looking at her in her true form.
His little pick up spiel is telling, there. >:/
And yet. And yet him and Eric. Oh my god if that is not the great love of his life, it is a pretty damn huge crush. I mean he might as well be walking around after Eric with heart bubbles for eyes. And yet it's only just occurring to me as I type this that Eric doesn't react to Charles the same way. I suppose maybe because he's seen too much of the world already, and some of the ugliest filth the world has ever produced at that. He just. Cannot be as idealistic about it as Charles is. So he comes into it more reserved and maybe thinking that he'll let the starry eyed idealism wear off - yet he's the one with the touching. Seriously, have I mentioned that once Eric decides to stay, there's never more than maybe a foot of space between them, max. Their personal space is allll smushed together, all the time. XD
But he's bothered by the thing with Raven also. I love him for the way he treats Raven. Even if it is a bit manipulative, so is how Charles treats her and at least Eric is honest.
And on the subject of Hank. Serves him right! Though I couldn't help but feel a little sorry for him - I have this soft spot for scientists going horribly wrong, or making blindingly stupid mistakes. And he's so young, really still a kid. So I watched that just feeling a little vindictive and mostly just oh here we go. Dammit Beast. :(
A lot of this movie was like that, really. Can't be helped when you know what's coming, but they did a good job of telling it well, I think. I enjoyed it, obviously! :)
The kids learning to control their powers was alternately awesome and hilarious also. Especially Banshee. om my god, Banshee. XD That was one of the moments where I really appreciated the audience - everyone laughed when he face planted out the window on his first try at flight.
Everyone laughed and cheered at the aborted attempt to recruit Wolverine. >:D I mean really, what can you do with a guy who responds with "go fuck yourselves". Also he just. Would not have worked with the kids, because ultimately all that first set were still kids.
I loved their partying showing off their powers so much. XD It was so utterly a thing that would happen, and Charles is such a stuffed up killjoy and a hypocrite. Mr. Beer Bong. Booo :P ...okay, so there was property damage involved. Still. >>
I did not like what they did with Angel and Darwin. I don't care if his death was heroic, that felt kind of skeevy. x.x
Eric heading to Magneto breaks my heart a little. Mostly because I kind of think Charles is right - Eric is considerably more than he is, on a level outside of their powers. It's just that he's so damaged by everything that's happened to him. >.<
Charles negotiates, and he tries to guide his people. Eric leads. And I honestly prefer Eric, if only he weren't being a homicidal jerk going down the become what you hate path.
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Because seriously? Seriously?! XD Tiny Charles and Raven! And oh god Raven. It is so sad when you know things are going to end badly. Really I quite want to slap the shit out of Charles for the way he treats Raven, even though I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean to be an asshole. It's just that she is quite right, he wants to conform and fit in and ideally, I think, have it be like they don't exist - like the mutations are no bigger a difference than eye and hair color. He flinches away from looking at her in her true form.
His little pick up spiel is telling, there. >:/
And yet. And yet him and Eric. Oh my god if that is not the great love of his life, it is a pretty damn huge crush. I mean he might as well be walking around after Eric with heart bubbles for eyes. And yet it's only just occurring to me as I type this that Eric doesn't react to Charles the same way. I suppose maybe because he's seen too much of the world already, and some of the ugliest filth the world has ever produced at that. He just. Cannot be as idealistic about it as Charles is. So he comes into it more reserved and maybe thinking that he'll let the starry eyed idealism wear off - yet he's the one with the touching. Seriously, have I mentioned that once Eric decides to stay, there's never more than maybe a foot of space between them, max. Their personal space is allll smushed together, all the time. XD
But he's bothered by the thing with Raven also. I love him for the way he treats Raven. Even if it is a bit manipulative, so is how Charles treats her and at least Eric is honest.
And on the subject of Hank. Serves him right! Though I couldn't help but feel a little sorry for him - I have this soft spot for scientists going horribly wrong, or making blindingly stupid mistakes. And he's so young, really still a kid. So I watched that just feeling a little vindictive and mostly just oh here we go. Dammit Beast. :(
A lot of this movie was like that, really. Can't be helped when you know what's coming, but they did a good job of telling it well, I think. I enjoyed it, obviously! :)
The kids learning to control their powers was alternately awesome and hilarious also. Especially Banshee. om my god, Banshee. XD That was one of the moments where I really appreciated the audience - everyone laughed when he face planted out the window on his first try at flight.
Everyone laughed and cheered at the aborted attempt to recruit Wolverine. >:D I mean really, what can you do with a guy who responds with "go fuck yourselves". Also he just. Would not have worked with the kids, because ultimately all that first set were still kids.
I loved their partying showing off their powers so much. XD It was so utterly a thing that would happen, and Charles is such a stuffed up killjoy and a hypocrite. Mr. Beer Bong. Booo :P ...okay, so there was property damage involved. Still. >>
I did not like what they did with Angel and Darwin. I don't care if his death was heroic, that felt kind of skeevy. x.x
Eric heading to Magneto breaks my heart a little. Mostly because I kind of think Charles is right - Eric is considerably more than he is, on a level outside of their powers. It's just that he's so damaged by everything that's happened to him. >.<
Charles negotiates, and he tries to guide his people. Eric leads. And I honestly prefer Eric, if only he weren't being a homicidal jerk going down the become what you hate path.
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Date: 2011-06-23 11:00 am (UTC)Erik is only homicidal in regards to anyone threatening the mutants, which is a train I can jump onto. (and which is why I'm not so hot about the producers wanting him being the one killing Kennedy in the next one)
I really liked the movie, though ultimately I'm not sure if I liked that they effectually rebooted the movieverse with this. Mind you, I've never touched an X-Men comic, but now we're facing two alternate storyline again and hmmm. Difficult.
(on a sidenote, in the interviews it's Faßbender with hearts in his eyes, which is a nice juxtaposition)
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Date: 2011-06-23 12:06 pm (UTC)*makes a note to self that it is Erik with a K*
In the movieverse, though, he's not quite as bad as he sometimes gets in the comics. I do not think he's ever tried to start a nuclear war, but war between humans and mutants, yes.
And I haven't been able to keep up with those! XD I tend to shrug off time-and-storylines, though, because Marvel Comics? Has more storylines and time lines and alternate realities and time travel than a carnival has sideshows. It is ridiculous. I gave up and perfectly fine with that.
I do like the movie though! They did very well in hitting touchstones so that comic-readers will recognize what's coming, but people who've only seen the movies ought to enjoy it too. <3
I have not seen the interviews. Might want to look for those, it sounds interesting. Or adorable if nothing else! :)
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Date: 2011-06-23 12:41 pm (UTC)well, I guess if you subscribed to the concept, what Charles exhibits is male white privilege. In the end I doubt that we can call it that, though, because it were the 60s. Things were different then, and the movie got that at least in part right (which is why I also think the whole wank about not doing colourblind casting is wasted, the movie is set into the principle of a comic narrative and all, ) in fashion and in part in lingo, and certainly attitude. Which, really, was nice. Human supremacy [over nature] and all that, that was done pretty well.
I think part of the problem that Charles is having - without knowing it, mind - is that he IS able to look into other people's heads. He knows what's going on, he internalizes that and I don't know if he works with compartmentalization or what, but he's just going over it....idk. The only times we see any kind of reaction of his towards what he's seen in Erik's head is when they break the surface of the water and when he tries to convince Erik to stay, everything else... He's very blasé about it. Which I get to a certain extent, but no further. Probably because I can't look into people's heads.
But that's something that was evident in the previous X-Men movies as well, I just think maybe people expected it of someone like the 'old' Professor X - or at the very least I wasn't much bothered by it - but to get it from a...what's Charles supposed to be anyway, late 20s, early 20s? McAvoy is 32 but doesn't look it, so who knows. Anyway, so see this in someone as young as Charles is in the movie, that's not expected. That's especially not expected because we - my generation, or at the very least my generation in this country - were raised with a general awareness. Or should have been, certainly didn't take with all. And that is something Charles isn't displaying. He's too young to have lived through the war with any sort of consciousness about it, but too old not to now of it at least, he's this weird kind of generation that came in between.
As I said, I have no experience with the comicverse. Actually, I haven't even seen X3 and Wolverine because eh. It was on my radar the way most superhero movies are, I should have grown up with them, but didn't, my exposure to comics was more of the French kind, when I was little. *g*
First Class is very enjoyable though, yes. ^^
I have my issues with Faßbender, but the interviews are way cute. There was a bit about them singing a little song together (has since been deleted) and McAvoy BURIED HIS FACE against Faßbender's shoulder. Everyone was sitting in front of their screen and going "Oo...get a room, boys"